After seeing a Facebook post, Here are FACTS. These 2 peptides are NOT the same.
1. Zepbound has FDA-approved fixed doses (amount of liquid you inject).
2. Zepbound’s potency, concentration, purity, and consistency are all FDA‑regulated and FDA‑monitored.
3. Tirzepatide is available in MANY different concentrations (potencies).
4. Tirzepatide can be purchased with a variety of additives such as Glycine, B6 and B12.
5. Additives in Tirzepatide CAN reduce the side effects you might get from Zepbound.
Some people get wrecked by nausea at 2.5mg of Zep but feel fine on 1.5mg of Tirz.
6. Some of the Tirz additives are believed to help with retaining muscle and bone health as you lose the weight on the peptide. This is not "written in stone" because the studies are not 100% conclusive at this time. However, it shows that Tirzepatide providers are trying to improve how the medication affects your overall health, while Zepbound remains unchanged.
7. BIGGEST difference may be your "out of pocket" cost for the medication. Depending on which provider you choose, you might save $$$ by switching to Tirzepatide.
How to avoid Tirz waste with new vials
Some of those little 8mL to as small as 3mL vials arrive pressurized. What this means is that if you don't displace the air pressure in a new (just received) vial, it may start leaking Tirz the minute that first needle penetrates the rubber stopper.
Here is how you avoid wasted/leaked medication:
Pre‑loading the syringe with air before inserting the needle is exactly how you equalize pressure.
1. Pull the plunger back to the amount of medication you want to withdraw.
2. Insert the needle into the vial.
3. The air you preloaded goes into the vial.
4. Pressure equalizes instantly.
5. The liquid flows smoothly into the syringe.
6. No leaking.
7. No wet stopper.
8. No wasted Tirzepatide.
After almost a year of trying 3 different providers and doing tons of "funnel" research (going through their signup process) I've settled on 1 provider today. I made this decision partly because they use tiny 3mL vials. This means the diameter of the glass is much less than 8mL vials some labs use. The 3mL vials make it easier to get the last few drops from the bottom because liquid is spread over a smaller surface.
Do NOT use Sterile Water for Tirzepatide or ANY peptides!
Benzyl alcohol prevents bacterial growth which is why the ONLY water that should be used to dilute or reconstitute Tirzepatide or ANY other peptide MUST be Bacteriostatic Water (BAC Water) UNLESS you plan to use all the mixed liquid within 24 hours.
Sterile Water. The kind on Amazon. One customer review says it was used to dilute Tirzepatide. Sterile water contaminates peptides, letting bacteria flourish. Injections over the next weeks could cause
localized infection, abscess, cellulitis, systemic infection and sepsis (in extreme cases, it can result in death).
Bacteriostatic Water also known as BAC Water, is the correct water to use which includes the alcohol that prevents bacterial growth. Many of the websites selling BAC water say that using an amount like 2mL extends the safe use of the vial contents for 28 days. That number appears to be the labs CYA (cover your ass) number.
Where to buy BAC. Pharmagradepeptides.is has the best $12.99 price on 30mL that I could find (about $24.00 with sales tax and shipping) but if you don't need that much and would like FedEx 2nd Air delivery, simplepeptides.com has a 10mL size which cost me $21.00 total.
INCORRECT DOSING INFORMATION As I was shopping for BAC water I stumbled upon a page with peptide dosing information that is 100% WRONG! It says that 0.1mL in a standard 1mL insulin syringe is 20 units. The correct amount is 10 units (a/k/a 10u or 10IU). If that mistake wasn't bad enough, it goes on to say that injecting 20u from a vial with 2mL of liquid will yield 33 injections. The website is peptidedeck.com where I also found plenty of suggested Tirz services that are all overpriced or make you "pay for a year" to get the best price.
Powdered Peptides
Many Tirz websites now offer other peptides like BPC-157, TB-500, GHK-Cu which goes by the nickname GLOW. FDA has not approved many peptides we can buy today. Sellers avoid federal penalties by doing several things. First, they put disclaimers all over the websites saying "not for human use" and they offer the peptides ONLY in powder form. This means turning them into injectable liquids requires adding BAC water. However, there may be an industry wide problem with the size of the vials currently provided. The 3mL vials can only hold up to 3mL Liquid. Achieving 30 doses of 10u each (considering as an industry standard) means your concentration level is limited. What if you want a lower concentration because you take other medications or just want to stretch your peptide testing for 2 months? It's impossible to inject 6mL of BAC water into a 3mL vial. During communications with the owners of Ascension Peptides and Optimal Bio Labs, I suggested offering their peptides in larger vials. I also suggested posting vial sizes on product pages so everyone knows that dillution is currently impossible. My photo shows the difference in size between an 8mL via and their current 3mL vials.
Glenn Welt
Henderson, Nevada < Until I move to Mars